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Vanilla Connections
The ongoing investigation into the alledged connections between the '60s underground and '60s underworld, Vanilla style.

What got us started? We found the following message on the Internet:

Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: You Guys Suck (Bring On The Fudge)
From: Elliot Iver <kkitano@students.wisc.edu>
Date: 1996/08/25

John Sullivan wrote:

>>Somebody in the audience yelled [youse guys stink, bring on the Fudge] at the [Mothers Of Invention] when they were warming up for the Vanilla Fudge.... FZ said it was one of those things you always remember, and it just stuck. What a mess.<<

...BTW, it is interesting to note that the Vanilla Fudge were widely known to have been the Mafia's contribution to Rock and Roll.

Elliot

 

 

 

 

 

 

The response to the message above was really interesting:

Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: You Guys Suck (Bring On The Fudge)
From: rmaurer@pinc.com (Rolf Maurer)
Date: 1996/08/27

>>BTW, it is interesting to note that the Vanilla Fudge were widely known to have been the Mafia's contribution to Rock and Roll.<<

 ... ? Please explain. But it would account for a lot:

1968/69 or thereabouts, word gets back to John Giotti (who, like most young people of his generation, spent a lot of time listening to rock'n'roll) that this guy Frank Zappa is going around slaggin' his boys, Da Fudge. Giotti bides his time. Turns out there's this low-level dealer in London that owes John a favour, and, a couple of years later, Giotti uses his connections to get this guy tickets really close to the front at a Zappa concert. The dealer almost chickens out, but at the last moment, while the band is doing its final encore, he jumps up on the stage and pushes Zappa (helpfully pointed out to him by one of the unionized stage electricians) into the orchestra pit.

The plan goes awry when the would-be hit-man, in the ensuing confusion, is inadvertently arrested by an incompetent security man (who dies under mysterious circumstances -- officially, a suicide -- a few days later). Mindful of what Giotti can do to him behind bars, the attacker makes up some cock-and-bull story about not getting his money's worth at the concert ("They never played Petroushka!", and accused Zappa of making eyes at his girlfriend (whom nobody could subsequently locate). The bobbies, unhip to the ways of Mob justice, buy his tissue of lies...

Rolf Maurer
rmaurer@pinc.com

 

 

We discovered another source of allegations, a biography of Jimi Hendrix:

"...Eire Apparent and Soft Machine had been the main support bands [for the Jimi Hendrix Experience] up until then. Now another name appeared on board: Vanilla Fudge. Formed in 1965 as the Pigeons, Vanilla Fudge had a minor hit in '67 with a slowed down, baroque version of You Keep Me Hangin' On.

With gothic organ and drone guitar sounds their debut album gave similar treatment to Eleanor Rigby, Ticket To Ride, Bang Bang, and People Get Ready. On the strength of this and subsequent efforts they became known as one of the first heavy rock bands, and they were also apparently controlled by the Mafia..."

From the book Electric Gypsy

 

Of course, If the Mafia allegation was as accurate as their Fudge review ...

 

 

Then we found the Pink Floyd Newsgroup on the Internet:

Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
From: dflync01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu
Date:1996/12/05

pnkfloyd76@aol.com wrote:

>>Check out the Don McLean tune "American Pie" it's all you need to know about R&R dying.<<

Nah, Rock and Roll died the second the Residents covered that song on their unreleased 3rd album "The Warner Bros. Album"... Or maybe it died the day MTV came on the air... Or when the mafia forced the Vanilla Fudge onto a Hendrix tour...

Dave Lynch

 

It might have happened that way. After all, Hendrix's management received...

 

 

Vince Martell on Vanilla Connections:

"You get some of these kind of connections happening - the lawyers we had, and the record company - a lot of people pushing in the same direction. And if the group has the goods to put it across musically... it makes an impression..."

 

 

Our investigation continues... ;-)