Message Number: 0001
Date: 08/04/1997; 12:58 AM
To: stanvon@innernet.net
From: Bill Bates, 72234.3720@compuserve.com
Reference: 000315
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Hi Stan, I thought I'd retitle the thread to continue our discussion about Fudge video's in the "I thought I was alone" thread. Maybe some of the other fans can add to my list below. Well, I scrambled about for my various scraps of papers and lists of what tv/film I've heard about. Following is all I can come up with for right now. The Fudge were mostly filmed on various US and European television variety shows between '67-'70. Most of the clips were of their singles, especially YKMHO & Shotgun.
Ed Sullivan in '68 & '69
Dick Cavett Show in '69
The '69 Venice Festival, televised in Italy, where the
Fudge won the "Golden Gondola Award" for their live
performance of "Some Velvet Morning".
The Beat Goes On promo video recorded in '68
Popcorn - '69 feature length movie directed by Peter
Clifton which you've previously described to us. And a rare video of the Vanilla Fudge performing "Paradise" that Carmine Appice said was sent to him by a fan in Japan (nobody including Carmine knew the clip even existed until Carmine received it in the mail several years ago!) As far as we've heard the largest collection of these film clips is in the posession of Carmine Appice who has a lot of them (and probably more than I've listed) stored on laser disc. Now wouldn't it be nice if Carmine's "Power Rock" company would produce some commercial videos from that collection and make them availible for sale to all the fans visiting his Powerock site? Just thinking aloud you understand (vbg)... Peace, Bill
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Message Number: 0006
Date: 08/18/1997; 05:17 PM
To: Bill Bates, 72234.3720@compuserve.com
From: Tony Allen, tonya@netcomm.com.au
Reference: 000337
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Hi Bill, I would be interesting to know what songes they performed on each of these clips and whether they were live or mimed. Tony
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Message Number: 0007
Date: 08/18/1997; 06:43 PM
To: Tony Allen, tonya@netcomm.com.au
From: Bill Bates, 72234.3720@compuserve.com
Reference: 000338
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Hi Tony, Text written by Tony Allen: ( I would be interesting to know what songes they performed on each of these clips and whether they were live or mimed. ) I wish I could help you. You and Stan Vaughn know more about the films/videos than I do. I suspect the majority of them are mimed, which was customary on tv shows of that era. I do know that the Ed Sullivan clips were in fact live, because I have the cd from there. But I have never seen many of the Fudge videos and film clips myself. The list I put together was from several books and things I've seen advertized over time, as well as some other clips Carmine has mentioned to Casey Butler. Peace, Bill
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Message Number: 0002
Date: 08/04/1997; 06:09 PM
To: Bill Bates, 72234.3720@compuserve.com
From: Stan Vaughn, stanvon@innernet.net
Reference: 000317
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Bill, Thanks for the info. I sure wish I had all of the items you mentioned. You know I seem to recall someone mentioning the fact that Carmine has a lot of these clips and maybe more stored on laser disc. Wouldn't it be great if Carmine's "Power Rock" company would produce some commercial videos from that collection? Oh, I'm sorry. Did you just tell me that? Or was I just wishing out loud? With all this noisy thinking and wishing maybe Carmine will hear us. PLEEEEEASE! Fudge Fan Forever, Stan
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Message Number: 0003
Date: 08/08/1997; 03:02 PM
To: Stan Vaughn, stanvon@innernet.net
From: , 72234.3720@compuserve.com
Reference: 000323
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Hi Stan, Teaxt written by Stan Vaughn: (Wouldn't it be great if Carmine's "Power Rock" company would produce some commercial videos from that collection? Oh, I'm sorry. Did you just tell me that? Or was I just wishing out loud? With all this noisy thinking and wishing maybe Carmine will hear us. PLEEEEEASE! ) ROFLOL! Great minds think and beg alike!!! (vbg) The "FUDGE" be with you, amigo! (smile) Peace, Bill
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Message Number: 0004
Date: 08/18/1997; 07:57 AM
To: , 72234.3720@compuserve.com
From: Mauro silla Mauro silla, SILLAMSB@TIN.IT
Reference: 000334
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Where is now Mark Stein? Is there a possibility to listen a new CD of the group? MAURO SILLA AURISINA STAZIONE 10/E 34011 (TS) - ITALY
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Message Number: 0005
Date: 08/18/1997; 04:35 PM
To: Mauro silla Mauro silla, SILLAMSB@TIN.IT
From: Bill Bates, 72234.3720@compuserve.com
Reference: 000335
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Hi Mauro, Text written by Mauro Silla: (Where is now Mark Stein? Is there a possibility to listen a new CD of the group?) Mark Stein's in Los Angeles, Ca. and still does small gigs and session work in the area, as far as we know. One of our biggest frustrations is that back in 1982 or '83, Mark recorded a solo LP which was produced by none other than Dave Mason. SInce that time CBS records has been sitting on the tapes and has yet to release Mark's solo album. Mark reported they even took photos for the album's jacket cover back then but CBS just never released it. Mark's work on Dave Mason's two solo LP's from that era, Old Crest on a New Wave and Marioposa de Oro were both released last year on cd here in the United States - hopefully you can find them in Italy. Mark's album with the 1971 band, Boomerang, still hasn't been reissued on cd yet. As far as a new Vanilla Fudge album we all have our fingers crossed. It may not happen before next year. In the mean time, Vince Martell (see his web page) is working on a new solo cd that will include some tracks with Tim Bogert, as well as musicians from Uriah Heap, King Crimson, Boomerang, Cactus and Sir Lord Baltimore. Carmine Appice is also about to release Guitar Zeus II on cd. Guitar Zeus I, was a killer album, and so we're also looking foreward to that one as well. Meanwhile, Tim Bogert just informed us that he's just released a new song on a Japanese compilation cd which he recently recorded in LA. I'll try to get a title for that Japanese cd and post it next week. BTW - welcome to the People Talk Forum! Italy rocks!:-) Peace, Bill
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Message Number: 0008
Date: 09/29/1997; 03:11 PM
To: Bill Bates, 72234.3720@compuserve.com
From: Mauro silla Mauro silla, SILLAMSB@TIN.IT
Reference: 000389
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Is it possible to find the recording of the exhibition of the Vanilla Fudge to Venice in the 1969 (Some velvet morning)?
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Message Number: 0009
Date: 09/29/1997; 05:44 PM
To: Mauro silla Mauro silla, SILLAMSB@TIN.IT
From: Bill Bates, 72234.3720@compuserve.com
Reference: 000392
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Hi Mauro, We're hoping Carmine has it on his large collection of Vanilla FUdge videos but we just don't know right now.I assume Italian video is in the PAL format which would have to be converted for us over here in the States. You might have a better chance at locating it in Italy than we would here in the USA. All the best, Bill Regards, Bill
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Message Number: 0011
Date: 11/02/1997; 06:16 AM
To: Bill Bates, 72234.3720@compuserve.com
From: Stan Vaughn, stanvon@innernet.net
Reference: 000412
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Since I've acquired a scanner I have been in contact with Casey Butler several times sending him e-mail containing scanned images. I also asked him about the possibility of posting a sound bite from one of the 1969 concert tapes I recorded. He thought it was a good idea so after I am finished here I'm going to prepare a tape of a portion of the concert in Gaithersburg MD., Sept. 1969. The only reason I'm able to do this is because before I got rid of my reel to reel deck I made an 8-track copy to play in my car. Remember were talking 1969 or early 1970 here. I came across the 8-track copy several months ago and found a friend who still has a working 8-track player. I transcribed as much of the 8-track version as I could onto cassette. Believe me, this was no small task. The one problem you will almost always run into now when attempting to play an 8-track from the 60s or early 70s is that the magnetic strip,which joins the tape loop and signals the player to change tracks,will almost certainly come loose. It did in my case as well. In case anyone else runs in to this problem, you can still buy replacement magnetic strips at Radio Shack. So even though this isn't a Fudge film or video or a new audio release, if this works out it will be something most Fudge Fans have never heard. More to come! Fudge Fan Forever, Stan
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